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Jusqu’à maintenant la Gamers Assembly avait annoncé un tournoi ShootMania Elite 16 slots et un tournoi TrackMania All Edition 50 slots pour les titres de Nadeo. Bien que le tournoi SM ait été pris d’assaut, le tournoi TM a visiblement du mal à attirer les foules.
Pour galvaniser les joueurs et les motiver encore plus à venir participer, Nadeo sort le grand jeu et fait le plein d’annonces fracassantes.
Toute d’abord, le nombre et la taille des tournois sont considérablement revu à la hausse. Ce ne sont pas moins de 6 tournois qui seront proposé sur les titres de Nadeo :
- Un tournoi ShootMania Elite de 24 équipes
- Un tournoi ShootMania Royal de 32 joueurs
- Un tournoi TrackMania² Canyon de 24 joueurs et...
- Un tournoi TrackMania² Stadium de 24 joueurs !
A ceci s’ajoutent un tournoi ShootMania Joust et un tournoi TrackMania United Forever dans la zone ManiaPlanet !
Les détails relatifs à chaque tournois tel que les règlements, packmap, planning vont arriver très prochainement afin que vous puissiez vous organiser.
A noter que TrackMania² Stadium sera présenté pour la première fois au grand public en compétition, encore une bonne raison de ne pas manquer cette GA.
Mais soyons fou, pourquoi s’arrêter là ? J’ai envie de vous parler des dotations. Elles ne sont pas encore annoncées complètement, mais une première partie (et pas des moindres) est dévoilée : les vainqueurs des 4 tournois principaux repartiront avec un PC Gamer Alienware X-51 (d’une valeur d’environ 1209€) ! Alors satisfait ?
Vous en voulez encore ? Et si je vous dis que Nadeo organisera pour la toute première fois le ManiaGala? Un nouvel événement ManiaPlanet axé sur l’esprit créatif et fun de nos jeux et ouvert à tous ! A découvrir : des modes de jeu créés par la communauté, des maps inhabituelles, nos mini games favoris, bref, un contenu riche et varié. Tout le monde est le bienvenu ! Des récompenses et des médailles seront distribuées aux participants et aux gagnants.
Et si avec tout cela vous hésitez encore à vous inscrire, il me reste encore ceci à vous dire : une scène entièrement dédié à l’univers ManiaPlanet sera accessible aux joueurs pour assister aux plus gros matchs TrackMania et ShootMania, mais aussi :
- Des matchs Nadeo vs les joueurs
- Une table ronde avec Hylis (le directeur du studio Nadeo) et avec les joueurs, sur le développement des jeux ManiaPlanet
- Un focus sur les modes de jeux créés par les joueurs
- La retransmission des IPL6 en direct de Las Vegas
- Remise des médailles du ManiaGala
- Plus de surprises en préparation
La fin du monde est passée, vous n'aurez plus d'excuses pour ne pas venir vous éclater avec nous, dépêchez-vous de vous inscrire sur le site de la Gamers Assembly, les places sont comptées!!!
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I don't agree with you here. Even if it will be just a copy-paste of TMNF, there is no reason for any team or organisation with a tmnf-squad to go back to an outdated game when there's kind of the same game with modern graphics which will have more tournaments or competitions with a (propably high) pricepool than the older game.
I dunno, just look at Counter-Strike 1.6 and Source for example: Source was more or less the same game, just with updated graphics and a different engine. The majority of people (especially those involved in esports) then preferred 1.6 and stayed with that game (after the initial run of tournaments in the beginning). Some may think they were stubborn to do that, but I think it's actually very important with the smallest details when it comes to esports, so I completely understood the reasons. These days Valve are working hard to get CS:GO to be the true sequel to 1.6 - that's what I want to see from Nadeo too.
By the way:
Florent: I don't know what is this story of the alpha
TM² Stadium has never left the office as far as I am informed .
Yeah, from the get-go, I suspected the Dignitas players were lying. No idea why they would do such a thing, but I guess it just shows what kind of people they want to be, which is good to know.
Anyway, it's (also) good to get it confirmed from the top dog that no one has tried the game.
PS: you have to admit we got you pretty good :D
But I wanted to see how far you'd take this lie, so I kept taking your word for it in public. Evidently, you wanted to take it pretty far. The idea behind that was to try and show to the community more clearly what kind of people you wanted to be. Remember, you didn't just try to mislead me with this information; a lot of people actually believed what you guys said was true.
I think you need to realize that perhaps this is not how you want to represent yourself (and your sponsors). Just a tip.
Now that Stadium is into Maniaplanet, and is a Trackmania 2 game, it will be up to the tournament organizer to choose which enviroment he wants at his tournament. Maybe it will be obvious to pick Stadium as it is the most popular game, or maybe they will prefer to move to the newer game. But when Nadeo is the organizer of the tournament, it´s their philosophy to give competition for all, no need to discuss it.
When a WCG, Dreamhack or anyone else wants to pick Trackmania for their tournament, they will decide what game is the best for it, they will check with the community, propose a poll, or maybe pick more than one title.
With more games as esport titles, it will divide amount of professional players as well as number of organizations. Remember that multigamings provides money to support teams and are not able to support so many line ups on different games, so they will get a game 'priority' or 'preference'. Recruiting line up on the title the most interesting for them in term of advertisement, viewers etc. It works the same for LANs organisators, they will check most interesting environment(s) and provide cash price for it, all organisators are not as developed as DREAMHACK or ESWC so they will pick only what they can afford to (if they do... remember that TM is not present in a lot of lans...). This means if we imagine the utopia that there will be plenty of LANs selecting TM environments, you will see sometimes all envi sometimes one etc. It can't work, this will be a lame way to work and a lame eSport for TrackMania.
eSport on many title never worked good actually, not even with games on a larger scale like Counter-Strike for instance, they just split the community in two parts and now are trying to fix what they did wrong with a new game with the goal to reunify the whole community (both 1.6/Source in GO).
We saw that it didn't work that well for TrackMania, at moment, compared to other games like FPS or RTS so if we start dividing it more this will be ruin to 0. So we should rather focus only on one game the most 'developed' at moment and then when the game is established, start to try to invest on other environments. Even though I highly doubt of a success (see Counter-Strike).
Now Stadium is into Maniaplanet and TM2, and I think it will probably change a lot how people will see it. Who didn´t know Trackmania before, would thought it was natural to pick Canyon because it was THE TM2 game. But now Stadium is TM2 as well. And if it has much more players than the other enviroments, it will have most of the tournaments, naturally.
In casual gaming, many games are not hurting each other till they are all played.
In eSport it divides as I said above because of 'money' bet on it. Organisations such as multigamings, lan organisators don't have infinite ressources to invest on games and then will have to make a choice (which is really bad in my opinion).
It is better for everyone to run with a game with 100% support from the company, from players and from organisators which completely rule in eSport, being selected in most notable LAN with a good future and very good basis than 2, 3 or more games supported at 20-30% by the company/players and most of the time 10% by organisators and organisations.
Moreover a bad example of division is what we could see in ESWC, with 'only' 8slots for TMNF (because of Canyon) which in the past had reached up to 24 or more (ESWC 2008 if I'm not mistaken).
I don't think things will go far if we keep that way to go, we will get stuck into some LANs party, not much reknown and still being considered as a 'casual' game. Who don't know about Starcraft 2 ? Who don't know about League of Legends, Dota ? Who don't know about Counter-Strike ? But who really knows about TrackMania :|
Why you guys do always want all, for eSport, for the good of the game blablabla...
Things are done in a natural way. There is a lot of things for stad because it rocks, for sure...But stop fighting for the dead of another game...Let ppl live their passion.
As good and uniting as this may sound, do we really afford this split-up in tournaments, prizes and organisations? When we already see the status of TrackMania in esport, I find it very hard to believe that multiple environments will be very constructive to a future sustainable esport within TrackMania.
We do completely understand that. But when our most popular environment in esport gets surrounded by other environments that can't compete against Stadium in terms of player amount and activity, It doesn't feel natural that NADEO is pushing the other environments equally as Stadium. The only effect taken by this is lower prize pools, lower player spots and the chance of TrackMania getting low priority in the bigger events increases because 1. They are not sure about which environment to choose 2. The popularity is not sufficient enough for it to be presented for big audience. 3. Fewer sponsors and organizations are involved in each environment because of the split-up.
But who knows, maybe Canyon and Valley can be as popular as Stadium, but I can't say I think of it very realistic, taken the current statistics into account.
The main problem is, doing this kind of thing is impossible without a good support by developpers themselves. I guess that Nadeo would like to do it at GA, but I doubt they will be involved in doing one very big international event per year. They don't have the capacity, neither the motivation.
tRkr: yes I think that's kinda their idea with this event. And I also think it's fine to have all the games present of course.
But I think it's much better to have a greater focus on just 1 title as the primary esports game. Just like Blizzard have with Starcraft 2 hosting events such as the "StarCraft II World Championship Series" which runs year long. Also, they are supporting all the other big events (GSL, MLG etc) who holds multiple events a year.
For TrackMania I don't want it to evolve into being just a 1 event/year thing - that's not esports to me.
So yeah, like you say, we definitely would need the support and co-operation from Nadeo. They seem to try very hard doing this with ShootMania, so why not with TrackMania as well. But I think it may be as you say: they simply don't have the capacity nor the motivation/passion to make that happen.
I think ultimately what we need is competition from other developers to get things rolling; developers who really have a desire to create an esports racing game for the future. But right now, Nadeo have the monopoly.
and if there´s no competition for Trackmania on esports it shows that it is difficult to do it, but Nadeo are still doing it!